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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:57 am 
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Will obviously be reprieves as well but I still thought more would have been promoted front the feeder league say the top 6


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:49 pm 
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Si_kirk wrote:
Will obviously be reprieves as well but I still thought more would have been promoted front the feeder league say the top 6

windy1970 post on page 62 explained who will be promoted from step 5 to step 4.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:26 am 
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Si_kirk wrote:
Will obviously be reprieves as well but I still thought more would have been promoted front the feeder league say the top 6

As many of 6 places will be available to step 7 clubs. 4 spaces to replace the promoted NL2 & 2 places if enough step 7 clubs apply. It will allow the FALC to relegate the NL2 bottom 2. I’m sure if North Cumbria & North Yorkshire clubs are laterally transferred to the NL(Carlisle City & Harrogate RA). Then less places will be offered to feeder league’s.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:38 am 
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aidan's father wrote:
I appreciate this is a NL forum, but I wonder what changes we'll see at Step 7 and below what with them being 'more aligned' with the County FA's. Does this mean the Alliance being only Northumberland and the Wearside only being Co.Durham. I would be sad to lose the likes of Rutherford, Redheugh, Whitburn etc from the league. Hebburn couldn't have two teams in the Wearside, so does anybody heard any future plans

Thats a great question.
I am sure the Leagues committee are taking the step 7 allocations this season so what you are saying could happen. The NA will probably have quite a few applications to sift through if past seasons are anything to go by.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:37 pm 
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This very thorough article covers the position from Step 1 all the way down to Step 7.
http://thebootifulgame.co.uk/2019/04/22/in-depth-analysis-steps-1-7-promotion-play-offs-relegations-as-it-stands/


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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The EBAC NL will not be running the new step 4 league http://www.northernfootballleague.org/n ... -4-league/ I’m sure it’ll end up being run by the NPL. The Isthmian & Southern League’s both run 4 divisions & the NPL currently runs 3.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:42 am 
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I really don't see what the League's gripe is about the far reaching consequences, the geographical coverage of the division and participating clubs will be the same regardless of who is administrating it. And the FA determine club movements anyway! Smacks of sour grapes.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Terrierdave wrote:
I really don't see what the League's gripe is about the far reaching consequences, the geographical coverage of the division and participating clubs will be the same regardless of who is administrating it. And the FA determine club movements anyway! Smacks of sour grapes.

Mike amos’s latest blog post is sure sour grapes


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:56 pm 
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I may have missed this and have not read alot of comments in this thread. But looking ad clubs to be relegated from NPL East (Step 4)

Second bottom is Carlton Town, approx 25 miles West of Northallerton and a little further south (in the grand scheme of things).

Has anyone thought these may be moved into the Northern League upon relegation (if relegated)?

Food for thought..


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:23 pm 
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apgibson wrote:
I may have missed this and have not read alot of comments in this thread. But looking ad clubs to be relegated from NPL East (Step 4)

Second bottom is Carlton Town, approx 25 miles West of Northallerton and a little further south (in the grand scheme of things).

Has anyone thought these may be moved into the Northern League upon relegation (if relegated)?

Food for thought..

They are Carlton Town next to Nottingham & not the Carlton from near Leeds. As for them being relegated, only the bottom club will be relegated. Because AFC Mansfield have failed the ground grading inspection & will be placed in bottom position & demoted. As it stands only Gresley will be relegated.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:32 pm 
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apgibson wrote:
I may have missed this and have not read alot of comments in this thread. But looking ad clubs to be relegated from NPL East (Step 4)

Second bottom is Carlton Town, approx 25 miles West of Northallerton and a little further south (in the grand scheme of things).

Has anyone thought these may be moved into the Northern League upon relegation (if relegated)?

Food for thought..


Carlton is near Nottingham, so probably 100 south of Northallerton (unless there is two )

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Sure its carlton near nottingham. Cant see teams from that area been in the league after next seaaon


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Promotion from step 5/6/7 for next season as follows:
Step 4 and Step 5
The Clubs finishing in last place in each of the seven divisions at Step 4 at the end of the Regular Season will take part in Step 4/5 Play Off matches against a Step 5 Club. A total of 24 Clubs will be automatically promoted to Step 4. These Clubs will be:
Combined Counties League Champion Club
Eastern Counties League Champion Club
Essex Senior League Champion Club
Hellenic League Champion Club
Midland League Champion Club
North West Counties League Champion Club, 2nd and 3rd placed Clubs
Northern League Champion Club, 2nd and 3rd placed Clubs
Northern Counties East Champion Club, 2nd and 3rd placed Clubs
Southern Counties East Champion Club
Spartan South Midlands Champion Club
Southern Combination Champion Club
United Counties League Champion Club
Wessex League Champion Club
Western League Champion Club
in addition to the above, the remaining second placed Clubs will be ranked on points per game (then goal difference, then goals scored if required) with the four highest placed Clubs also receiving automatic promotion.
The remaining seven second placed Clubs will take part in the Step 4/5 Play Off matches on a single match basis at the ground of the Step 4 Club they are drawn against. Where possible, the draw for the Play Off matches will be regionalised. The winners of these Step 4/5 Play Off matches will be allocated to Step 4.
The Clubs to be promoted from Step 5 will be allocated to the most geographically appropriate division at Step 4.
A Club promoted to Step 4 shall comply with the Licencing System provision as set out in Appendix 1 to the Standardised Rules.
Step 5 and Step 6
The Clubs in the bottom place in each of the fourteen divisions at Step 5 at the end of the Regular Season will be ranked on a points per match basis (then goal difference, then goals scored if required) - the twelve lowest will be relegated and placed in the most geographically appropriate division of Step 6. These Clubs will be replaced by the Clubs in first and second position of the two divisions operated by the South West Peninsula League and the Clubs placed in first, second, third and fourth positions in the remaining eighteen Leagues at Step 6 at the end of the Regular Season.
Step 6 and 7
At the end of the Regular Playing Season the Clubs in the bottom two positions of each of the twenty Step 6 divisions will be liable to relegation.
All Step 7 Clubs seeking promotion to Step 6 must make application using the prescribed form direct to The Association, copied to their existing League, by 31st December in the relevant year. In order to be considered for promotion Clubs must finish in 1st position in their Step 7 league. If the Club finishing in 1st position does not wish to be promoted or fails to meet the entry criteria then the club finishing in 2nd position will be eligible for promotion. If the club in 2nd position does not seek promotion or fails to meet the entry criteria then clubs down to 5th position may be considered for promotion provided that they meet the appropriate entry criteria. Clubs finishing below 5th position may not be considered for promotion and, for this season only, more than one club may be considered from each League. Each application must be accompanied by the agreed application fee, as determined by the Committee, which is non-refundable.
No more than 40 Clubs will be promoted from Step 7. If more than 40 Clubs are eligible for promotion they will be chosen based on a points per match basis. Where the eligible Clubs count does not reach 40 in number, reprieves of Step 6 Clubs shall come into effect on a points per match basis.
5.3 For the 2019/20 season only, at Steps 2-3 the Club finishing in last place in the table at the end of the Regular Season will be relegated and not reprieved.
5.4 At Steps 1 to 6, if a Club becomes eligible to take part in a Play Off Match and refuses to take part in that match or if a Club qualifies for promotion and refuses to be promoted then that Club shall be relegated from the division from which it has so qualified and shall play the following Playing Season in the division at the next Step below which is deemed the most appropriate by the Committee. If the refusal/ineligibility applies to a Club currently operating at Step 6, the Club will be removed from the NLS and placed in the appropriate Regional NLS Feeder League.
5.5 Where a vacancy occurs within the NLS the following procedures will apply:
End of the Playing Season
5.5.1 (a) Where a Club notifies its decision to resign from its League at the end of the Playing Season, then a vacancy is created on the date the notification of that decision is formally recorded by that League. Such resignation can only be withdrawn by the end of that Playing Season with the consent of the Board of that League.
(b) In all cases, that Club is treated as a relegated Club. The final table of that division is not affected.
(c) In cases where the vacancy is created after the end of the Playing Season but before the League’s AGM, the vacancy will be filled in accordance with Regulation 5.5.2 below.
5.5.2 (a) Where a vacancy occurs at Step 1 and Step 2 following the completion of a Playing Season the best ranked Club in a relegation position is reprieved.
(b) Where a vacancy arises at Step 3 to 6 following the completion of a Playing Season it shall be dealt with at the sole discretion of the Committee.
(c) Where a vacancy occurs at Step 3 and 4 after the allocations for the following season have been published and prior to the holding of the League's AGM. The vacancy created shall be dealt with at the sole discretion of the Committee in order to minimise disruption.
(d) Where a vacancy occurs after the date of a League AGM then a League is not able to replace the Club(s) concerned for the following Playing Season.
Prior to the end of a Playing Season
5.5.3 (a) In cases where the vacancy is created prior to the end of the Playing Season, at Steps 1 and 2 the vacancy will be filled by the best ranked Club in a relegation position at the end of the Regular Season, eligible of being reprieved in that same division. In the event of there being more vacancies than Clubs eligible to be reprieved, such vacancy or vacancies will be filled by Clubs eligible to be reprieved in the Competition’s other division(s) on a points per match ratio. At Steps 3 to 6, the vacancies shall be filled at the sole discretion of the Committee.
(b) Where, prior to the end of the Playing Season, a Club notifies its decision to resign from its League with immediate effect or where a Club is removed from the League for any reason, then the playing record of that Club will be expunged and a vacancy is created on the date the resignation or removal is formally recorded by that League.
(c) In all such cases that Club is treated as a relegated Club and the vacancy will be filled in accordance with 5.5.3(a) above.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Full rules & regs for next season https://scefl.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 20-1.0.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 pm 
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bigcbeat wrote:
aidan's father wrote:
I appreciate this is a NL forum, but I wonder what changes we'll see at Step 7 and below what with them being 'more aligned' with the County FA's. Does this mean the Alliance being only Northumberland and the Wearside only being Co.Durham. I would be sad to lose the likes of Rutherford, Redheugh, Whitburn etc from the league. Hebburn couldn't have two teams in the Wearside, so does anybody heard any future plans

Thats a great question.
I am sure the Leagues committee are taking the step 7 allocations this season so what you are saying could happen. The NA will probably have quite a few applications to sift through if past seasons are anything to go by.


Yep, totally agree. In other parts of the country, step 7 is referred to as 'county level'. What is the step 7 option for Cumberland FA teams within their county?

In all honesty this restucturing should have been done 10-15 years ago and the game would have thrived under step 5...


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