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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:19 pm 
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Reading this weekends non league paper windys info r.e restructuring was not far wrong. As for berwick imagine if they did enter the english leagues ha ha wonder which level they would be placed at


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:01 am 
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[quote="Windy1970"]. Because the same outcome will happen. A quick calculation shows that the NPL1E will go as far south as the M18/M180.
Iknow it depends on who gets promoted and relegated but cannot see where you can get 20 clubs north of M18/M180 line,so it could go further south unless they take clubs from the west.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:07 am 
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Not that it's important and I'm sure most people already know this, but Berwick, if they lose the playoff, will go into the South of Scotland League. There are two other teams in Berwick, Tweedmouth play in the East of Scotland League, but Spittal Rovers play in the 2nd Division of the Northern Alliance.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:35 am 
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aidan's father wrote:
Not that it's important and I'm sure most people already know this, but Berwick, if they lose the playoff, will go into the South of Scotland League. There are two other teams in Berwick, Tweedmouth play in the East of Scotland League, but Spittal Rovers play in the 2nd Division of the Northern Alliance.

if Berwick rangers play in and lose the play off they will go into the lowland league not south of Scotland league.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:36 am 
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Just out of curiosity, would Berwick ever be open to the idea of playing there football in England or would that become to political?.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Lovenonleague wrote:
Just out of curiosity, would Berwick ever be open to the idea of playing there football in England or would that become to political?.

Would say there level would be evostick division 1 but because they are essentially a new team i guess they would have to start at step 6.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am 
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2009vasewinner wrote:
Windy1970 wrote:
. Because the same outcome will happen. A quick calculation shows that the NPL1E will go as far south as the M18/M180.
Iknow it depends on who gets promoted and relegated but cannot see where you can get 20 clubs north of M18/M180 line,so it could go further south unless they take clubs from the west.

I’ve done a bit of a simple projection for season 2020/21 & you are correct. As things stand right now 2 teams will be below that line. In this projection, I’ve promoted the teams that are currently top of the step 5 leagues & relegated the teams in the drop zones from steps 3 & 4.
I’ve then promoted the teams from 2nd-4th places from the NL, NWCL & NCEL(as if these teams end up in 1st-3rd next season).
NPL1E:
1) Belper Town
2) Bishop Auckland
3) Bridlington Town
4) Brighouse Town
5) Cleethorpes Town
6) Consett
7) Dunston UTS
8). Frickley Athletic
9) Hebburn Town
10) Lincoln Utd
11) Maltby Main
12) Marske Utd
13) Ossett Utd
14) Penistone Church
15) Pickering Town
16) Pontefract Col
17) Sheffield
18) Stocksbridge PS
19) Tadcaster Albion
20) Worksop Town
NPL1W
1) Bamber Bridge
2) Bootle
3) Clitheroe
4) City of Liverpool
5) Colne
6) Congleton Town
7) Droylsden
8). Glossop NE
9) Kendal Town
10) Kidsgrove Athletic
11) Leek Town
12) Mossley
13) Newcastle Town
14) Northwich Vics
15) Prescot Cables
16) Ramsbottom Utd
17) Runcorn Linnets
18) Trafford
19) Widnes
20) Workington
A few changes will obviously occur, but it isn’t going to be much different than this.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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2009vasewinner wrote:
if Berwick rangers play in and lose the play off they will go into the lowland league not south of Scotland league.

I apologise, of course you are correct.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:13 am 
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aidan's father wrote:
Not that it's important and I'm sure most people already know this, but Berwick, if they lose the playoff, will go into the South of Scotland League. There are two other teams in Berwick, Tweedmouth play in the East of Scotland League, but Spittal Rovers play in the 2nd Division of the Northern Alliance.
Did Tweedmouth Rangers play in the North Northumberland League recently?

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:31 am 
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el Queso Grande wrote:
aidan's father wrote:
Not that it's important and I'm sure most people already know this, but Berwick, if they lose the playoff, will go into the South of Scotland League. There are two other teams in Berwick, Tweedmouth play in the East of Scotland League, but Spittal Rovers play in the 2nd Division of the Northern Alliance.
Did Tweedmouth Rangers play in the North Northumberland League recently?

yes.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:32 am 
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Windy1970 wrote:
2009vasewinner wrote:
Windy1970 wrote:
. Because the same outcome will happen. A quick calculation shows that the NPL1E will go as far south as the M18/M180.
Iknow it depends on who gets promoted and relegated but cannot see where you can get 20 clubs north of M18/M180 line,so it could go further south unless they take clubs from the west.

I’ve done a bit of a simple projection for season 2020/21 & you are correct. As things stand right now 2 teams will be below that line. In this projection, I’ve promoted the teams that are currently top of the step 5 leagues & relegated the teams in the drop zones from steps 3 & 4.
I’ve then promoted the teams from 2nd-4th places from the NL, NWCL & NCEL(as if these teams end up in 1st-3rd next season).
NPL1E:
1) Belper Town
2) Bishop Auckland
3) Bridlington Town
4) Brighouse Town
5) Cleethorpes Town
6) Consett
7) Dunston UTS
8). Frickley Athletic
9) Hebburn Town
10) Lincoln Utd
11) Maltby Main
12) Marske Utd
13) Ossett Utd
14) Penistone Church
15) Pickering Town
16) Pontefract Col
17) Sheffield
18) Stocksbridge PS
19) Tadcaster Albion
20) Worksop Town
NPL1W
1) Bamber Bridge
2) Bootle
3) Clitheroe
4) City of Liverpool
5) Colne
6) Congleton Town
7) Droylsden
8). Glossop NE
9) Kendal Town
10) Kidsgrove Athletic
11) Leek Town
12) Mossley
13) Newcastle Town
14) Northwich Vics
15) Prescot Cables
16) Ramsbottom Utd
17) Runcorn Linnets
18) Trafford
19) Widnes
20) Workington
A few changes will obviously occur, but it isn’t going to be much different than this.

agree thanks windy.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:53 am 
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I’ve done a similar projection for the NL 2020/21 using the promotion criteria
NL1:
1) Ashington
2) Billingham Town
3) Chester-le-Street Town
4) Guisborough Town
5) Heaton Stannington
6) Knaresborough Town
7) Newcastle Benfield
8) Newton Aycliffe
9) Northallerton Town
10) North Shields
11) Ryhope CW
12) Seaham Red Star
13) Shildon
14) Stockton Town
15) Sunderland RCA
16) Thornaby
17) West Allotment Celtic
18) West Auckland Town
19) Whickham
20) Whitley Bay
NL2:
1) AFC Killingworth
2) Bedlington Terriers
3) Billingham Synthonia
4) Birtley Town
5) Boro Rangers(almost certainly moving to a new ground)
6) Brandon Utd
7) Crook Town
8) Durham City(dependant on whether they’re relegated this season)
9) Easington Col
10) Esh Winning
11) Hebburn Town Res
12) Jarrow
13) Kirkbymoorside
14) Newcastle Uni
15) Redcar Athletic
16) Ryton & Crawcrook Albion
17) Sunderland West End
18) Tow Law Town
19) Washington
20) Willington
*the rules allow for more than 1 step 7 club to be promoted per league, so if these clubs aren’t promoted or don’t apply then there are several other interested clubs. So those doomsayers that said promotion would kill the Northern League are way off the mark. *the new maps that have been released put Penrith in the NWCL, if they aren’t moved then Knaresborough will be moved back to the NCEL.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:28 pm 
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Direct question to Windy:

Next season what do you envisage likely promotion criteria to be from the Northern League Division 1?


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:38 pm 
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Thanks windy. Its fair to say from your projections which i dont think will be far off the evostick d1 e will go as far as north derbyshire which is still better than cambridge! Can see northern league teams getting double promotions makeing the evostick premier more northern but once restructuring and mass promotion is complete surely some will tail off and drop back down. I think the fa are doing there best but some will still whinge about the travel issue


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:41 pm 
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Micky the Rodent wrote:
Direct question to Windy:

Next season what do you envisage likely promotion criteria to be from the Northern League Division 1?

Top 3(it actually states this in the Nonleague Paper).


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